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| ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - init process | Feb 12 09:30 | |
| nirik | who all is here for the irc support sig meeting? | Feb 12 09:31 |
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| Southern_Gentlem | +1 | Feb 12 09:31 |
| Southern_Gentlem | for a change | Feb 12 09:31 |
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| *linuxguru is here | Feb 12 09:31 | |
| rjune | I'm here. but do I matter? | Feb 12 09:31 |
| nirik | everybody matters. ;) | Feb 12 09:32 |
| *nirik waits a bit for more folks. | Feb 12 09:32 | |
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| *vwbusguy rings a bell. | Feb 12 09:33 | |
| *rdieter lurks | Feb 12 09:33 | |
| McGiwer | hi | Feb 12 09:33 |
| McGiwer | PawelSadowski | Feb 12 09:33 |
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| nirik | ok, I guess we should get started. I don't have all that much on the agenda today... | Feb 12 09:34 |
| ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - Classes | Feb 12 09:34 | |
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| nirik | we had some classes last weekend... hard to tell how good attendence was. ;) | Feb 12 09:34 |
| nirik | always looking for folks to teach, the next set of classes is in march. | Feb 12 09:35 |
| Southern_Gentlem | looking at my schedule i will look at possible june | Feb 12 09:35 |
| nirik | anyone have any questions or comments on classes? | Feb 12 09:35 |
| nirik | Southern_Gentlem: cool. :) | Feb 12 09:35 |
| nirik | ok, moving along... | Feb 12 09:36 |
| ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - State of the channel | Feb 12 09:36 | |
| Southern_Gentlem | possible a jigdo class or maybe a pyjigdo | Feb 12 09:36 |
| nirik | how do folks think we are doing currently? better? worse? is there anything we can do to improve? | Feb 12 09:36 |
| rjune | When are the classess chedule | Feb 12 09:37 |
| Southern_Gentlem | all in all i think the channel is in fairly good shape | Feb 12 09:37 |
| rjune | doh, sorry. | Feb 12 09:37 |
| nirik | rjune: Classroom | Feb 12 09:37 |
| linuxguru | have been few days since i came back and it seems to be going great. probably much better then when i left. | Feb 12 09:38 |
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| nirik | I think it's been going much as it has for a while... not sure what to do to improve things anymore though. ;) | Feb 12 09:38 |
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| nirik | linuxguru: just out of curiosity, why did you leave and why did you come back? anything related to the channel? or just outside time/other issues? | Feb 12 09:39 |
| linuxguru | nirik, lack of internet and time actually. | Feb 12 09:39 |
| inode0 | nirik: no one has come to #rhel complaining in a long time - so I think things are better | Feb 12 09:39 |
| nirik | ok, no worries. :) Welcome back. | Feb 12 09:39 |
| nirik | inode0: did that used to happen? | Feb 12 09:40 |
| inode0 | yes | Feb 12 09:40 |
| nirik | interesting. ok. | Feb 12 09:40 |
| inode0 | still happens from #centos | Feb 12 09:40 |
| *nirik nods. | Feb 12 09:40 | |
| Southern_Gentlem | i am afraid that the IQ level in the channel has dropped again | Feb 12 09:40 |
| Southern_Gentlem | which tells me we are getting new people | Feb 12 09:41 |
| nirik | right now the best thing I can think of to improve things is get more folks who know things involved in helping... but thats always hard to do as everyone is busy. | Feb 12 09:41 |
| nirik | I did notice a rise of 'I used $otherbrowndistro and am switching to fedora, how do I...' in the last few weeks. No idea what would have caused it though. | Feb 12 09:42 |
| Southern_Gentlem | inode0, because they are running centos or EOL? | Feb 12 09:42 |
| nirik | anyhow, any feedback or ideas on improving things are always welcome. | Feb 12 09:42 |
| ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - Open Floor | Feb 12 09:44 | |
| nirik | anyone have anything else they would like to bring up? | Feb 12 09:44 |
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| linuxguru | oh. is the ati binary driver issue resolved with f10? | Feb 12 09:45 |
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| jwb | we don't know and can't do anything about it | Feb 12 09:45 |
| Southern_Gentlem | Fedora Unity is looking for PPC testers for the new F10 re-spin | Feb 12 09:45 |
| Southern_Gentlem | linuxguru, newer issue or just an issue | Feb 12 09:46 |
| nirik | linuxguru: 'issue'? | Feb 12 09:46 |
| Southern_Gentlem | i know that rpmfusion has kmod-fglrx for f10 | Feb 12 09:46 |
| *nirik might be able to reinstall his ppc box... as long as rawhide is installable so he can go back. | Feb 12 09:46 | |
| linuxguru | okay | Feb 12 09:47 |
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| linuxguru | well it's a ati problem i know. might be that i didn't correctly phrased it | Feb 12 09:48 |
| Southern_Gentlem | linuxguru, mobile 9800 i think may be flacky but thomasj would be the person to talk to | Feb 12 09:48 |
| *Southern_Gentlem trys to stay out of ati and sound issues | Feb 12 09:48 | |
| linuxguru | and one more thing are the classes target for only beginners ? | Feb 12 09:49 |
| nirik | linuxguru: no, they can be any level... | Feb 12 09:49 |
| nirik | whatever people are willing to teach. | Feb 12 09:49 |
| Southern_Gentlem | targeted at whatever level the instructor wants to set it at | Feb 12 09:49 |
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| linuxguru | march 8 sounds a good date for me. semester exams end by that time. | Feb 12 09:50 |
| linuxguru | i might be interested in taking a intermediate selinux class. | Feb 12 09:50 |
| Southern_Gentlem | especially if there has been a beginners level i hope someone will do the next steps | Feb 12 09:50 |
| linuxguru | when is the last date to register a class | Feb 12 09:50 |
| Southern_Gentlem | to take the class you show up | Feb 12 09:50 |
| nirik | taking? or teaching? :) | Feb 12 09:50 |
| linuxguru | oh. teaching i mean. | Feb 12 09:51 |
| nirik | for teaching it would be good to get it signed up at least a week before, so we have time to advertise the classes. | Feb 12 09:51 |
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| nirik | I'd love to get the next classes table filled up sooner than that. | Feb 12 09:51 |
| nirik | it's been hard to find teachers though. ;( | Feb 12 09:52 |
| *herlo agrees | Feb 12 09:52 | |
| linuxguru | teaching is a hard job. i helped 3 people pass the selinux policy exam but it was very demanding | Feb 12 09:52 |
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| nirik | classes are 1 hour, so you can't get too deep into a subject, unless you do a series or something. | Feb 12 09:53 |
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| Southern_Gentlem | more series the better | Feb 12 09:53 |
| nirik | although the classroom channel is open 24x7, so you could always schedule a longer class for some other time. | Feb 12 09:53 |
| linuxguru | i think continuing from where herlo left will be a great idea. | Feb 12 09:53 |
| vwbusguy | inode0, at least one person complains about #Fedora in #RHEL. But I don't think that person can be helped about that right now. | Feb 12 09:55 |
| Southern_Gentlem | welcome thomasj | Feb 12 09:55 |
| thomasj | Thanks | Feb 12 09:55 |
| nirik | another suggestion I got the other day was to do a series on a project... start from design, coding, testing, packaging for fedora, reviewing, updating, etc. | Feb 12 09:55 |
| *thomasj missed the meeting again.. sorry.. | Feb 12 09:56 | |
| nirik | ie, from start to finish show how the entire process goes. | Feb 12 09:56 |
| Southern_Gentlem | nirik i agree | Feb 12 09:56 |
| Southern_Gentlem | thomasj, nope you made it | Feb 12 09:56 |
| *nirik would love to see that, but it needs people to drive it forward. ;) | Feb 12 09:56 | |
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| thomasj | Southern_Gentlem, true, but late | Feb 12 09:56 |
| vwbusguy | as far as EOL thing. I think it is a good policy so far to tell them to upgrade / offer assistance with upgrading / pointing them to CentOS and then if they keep pushing it send them to #Fedora-EOL. I think that has been working | Feb 12 09:56 |
| linuxguru | nirik, you mean to practically starting a project | Feb 12 09:56 |
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| linuxguru | say* | Feb 12 09:56 |
| nirik | linuxguru: yes. | Feb 12 09:56 |
| linuxguru | that will really be nice. but it involves so many things. | Feb 12 09:57 |
| mj0vy | We should direct issues on generic topics like Grub/LVM/Filesystem to #fedora-eol if they are running EOL Fedora or take it on #fedora itself? | Feb 12 09:57 |
| nirik | yeah, it would. It would be pretty cool though as a series of classes. | Feb 12 09:57 |
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| nirik | mj0vy: you're welcome to help if you know the answer, but suggest they upgrade or go to eol if they need more help. | Feb 12 09:58 |
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| vwbusguy | mj0vy, somethings that seem general are complicated by variances in old releases | Feb 12 09:58 |
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| nirik | yeah, even things you think you know may well have been different in a very old release. | Feb 12 09:58 |
| vwbusguy | I'm personally of the opinion that if someone wants to help them AND they are not distracting current version users, that it's not a problem in #Fedora | Feb 12 09:58 |
| vwbusguy | it's also not a problem in #Fedora for them to be continuously advised to upgrade / migrate | Feb 12 09:59 |
| linuxguru | i think its better that way yes. if traffic is low you can accommodate eol users in #fedora itself | Feb 12 09:59 |
| nirik | right, which they will be. :) I'm happy to tell them to upgrade, and point them at eol. ;) | Feb 12 09:59 |
| vwbusguy | ok, I have to go to an appointment | Feb 12 10:00 |
| vwbusguy | later | Feb 12 10:00 |
| nirik | have fun vwbusguy | Feb 12 10:00 |
| *vwbusguy & | Feb 12 10:00 | |
| linuxguru | laterz vwbusguy | Feb 12 10:00 |
| nirik | ok, anything further today? or shall we wrap up? | Feb 12 10:00 |
| *linuxguru wishes everyone a very happy valentine day. enjoy | Feb 12 10:01 | |
| *nirik will close the meeting in a few if nothing else comes up. | Feb 12 10:01 | |
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| ---nirik has changed the topic to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule | Feb 12 10:02 | |
| nirik | thanks for coming everyone. | Feb 12 10:02 |
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