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| ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - init process. | Feb 26 09:30 | |
| nirik | who all is here for the irc support sig meeting? | Feb 26 09:30 |
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| *thomasj | Feb 26 09:30 | |
| *roguedaemon | Feb 26 09:30 | |
| *zcat | Feb 26 09:31 | |
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| *Sonar_Guy is here | Feb 26 09:31 | |
| *nirik waits another min for a few more folks, then we will get started. | Feb 26 09:32 | |
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| nirik | ok, lets go ahead I guess... | Feb 26 09:33 |
| ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - Classroom | Feb 26 09:33 | |
| nirik | you've heard it before. ;) Need teachers for the next session... consider signing up or asking someone you know to. | Feb 26 09:34 |
| nirik | Classroom is the page. :) | Feb 26 09:34 |
| nirik | any questions on that? shall we move on? | Feb 26 09:35 |
| Sonar_Guy | none here | Feb 26 09:35 |
| ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - weekly stats | Feb 26 09:35 | |
| nirik | so Sonar_Guy has been running some weekly stats for us... | Feb 26 09:35 |
| Sonar_Guy | http://theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html | Feb 26 09:36 |
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| nirik | I think there's some good info here we can look at... | Feb 26 09:36 |
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| nirik | first, 12 and 23 are the hours with the most activity. We could look at trying to get more folks around to help at those times. | Feb 26 09:37 |
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| roguedaemon | i take it thats EST | Feb 26 09:38 |
| nirik | secondly, the list of top links are interesting. I don't know how we could get users to see them easier without telling them though. | Feb 26 09:38 |
| Sonar_Guy | roguedaemon: yes | Feb 26 09:38 |
| nirik | That says that many folks are being pointed to the pulse faq... so thats good to know. | Feb 26 09:39 |
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| zcat | Sonar_Guy, that's not a full 7 days, yet, right? you just enabled weekly? | Feb 26 09:40 |
| nirik | also, over this time we only had flood kicks from fedbot... which is pretty amazing. | Feb 26 09:40 |
| nirik | yeah, this isn't the full week. | Feb 26 09:40 |
| Sonar_Guy | zcat not yet | Feb 26 09:40 |
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| Southern_Gentlem | thomasj is busy from 0-7 ish | Feb 26 09:40 |
| Sonar_Guy | zcat: this is actually only about 2 1/2 days, I did not get it configured till early tuesday | Feb 26 09:40 |
| nirik | so we might have more info next week, but I think it could help us... | Feb 26 09:41 |
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| zcat | anything to add about fenrus / _drj2? | Feb 26 09:41 |
| nirik | he's a question answering fiend... but i just hope he doesn't burn out. ;) | Feb 26 09:42 |
| Sonar_Guy | zcat: he rocks and never sleeps | Feb 26 09:42 |
| nirik | anyone have anything more on the stats? or shall we look at them after a full week and see what we might want to adjust/change in the channel? | Feb 26 09:44 |
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| daMaestro | we should disclose we are logging but not publishing | Feb 26 09:44 |
| Southern_Gentlem | stabby-mc does a pretty good job as well | Feb 26 09:44 |
| daMaestro | (not in the topic or anything.. but somewhere on the wiki) | Feb 26 09:44 |
| Southern_Gentlem | no | Feb 26 09:45 |
| roguedaemon | zcat: like what | Feb 26 09:45 |
| nirik | daMaestro: we added it to the join message that the channel could be logged. | Feb 26 09:45 |
| Southern_Gentlem | already stated that the channel is logged | Feb 26 09:45 |
| daMaestro | nirik, k. i know it's common knowledge, but yeah | Feb 26 09:45 |
| *nirik wonders if that has discouraged some of the trolling... it's been a quiet week. | Feb 26 09:45 | |
| Southern_Gentlem | seems to have | Feb 26 09:45 |
| Southern_Gentlem | the idiots have seemed to have claimed down on the magic paste that kicks people | Feb 26 09:46 |
| zcat | roguedaemon, ops, if more needed. channel hasn't really grown / got more rowdy though. | Feb 26 09:46 |
| roguedaemon | well, we are at almost 500 and its not release time... | Feb 26 09:47 |
| inode0 | would you guys like to see how things look after a longer period? | Feb 26 09:47 |
| roguedaemon | inode0: what do you mean | Feb 26 09:48 |
| nirik | yeah, it's an ebb in the cycle... after alpha, before beta, etc. | Feb 26 09:48 |
| nirik | inode0: we do have longer stats, but weekly seems to me to be a good indicator of current channel activity. | Feb 26 09:48 |
| Southern_Gentlem | zcat you think the channel has gotten my rowdy? | Feb 26 09:48 |
| Southern_Gentlem | more rowdy rather | Feb 26 09:49 |
| roguedaemon | nirik: seems like 100 more than this time last year, not sure if i remember correctly or not though | Feb 26 09:49 |
| zcat | Southern_Gentlem, nope | Feb 26 09:49 |
| nirik | http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/fedora/fedora-20090219.html | Feb 26 09:49 |
| Southern_Gentlem | i think it has claimed down alot | Feb 26 09:49 |
| nirik | thats a year and a half or so. | Feb 26 09:49 |
| inode0 | nirik: I've been poking StabbyMc about IRC classroom too, which he is ideally suited for and he is very interested in helping out there. | Feb 26 09:49 |
| roguedaemon | nirik: heh ive been quiet for a while and am still #3 | Feb 26 09:50 |
| *roguedaemon chuckles | Feb 26 09:50 | |
| nirik | inode0: yep. We are over in classroom now talking about it. | Feb 26 09:50 |
| roguedaemon | oh you didnt combine gents | Feb 26 09:51 |
| nirik | I guess monthly could be interesting as well. | Feb 26 09:51 |
| nirik | yeah, not much config. I just ran it real quick the other day. | Feb 26 09:51 |
| Southern_Gentlem | roguedaemon, i have stopped posting as much and i am still #1 | Feb 26 09:51 |
| roguedaemon | heheh | Feb 26 09:51 |
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| nirik | ok, shall we move on and revisit the stats next week? | Feb 26 09:53 |
| ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - status of the channel. | Feb 26 09:53 | |
| nirik | so, how are things going? Any ideas for improvement? any problems or questions this week? | Feb 26 09:53 |
| zcat | All's well, IMO, 'cept for a Dosimal thorn in everybody's side :) | Feb 26 09:54 |
| Southern_Gentlem | IMHO i think the channel is doing fine, things are very claim (which worries me a little bit) | Feb 26 09:54 |
| zcat | and fnewton's renewed semi-anti-fedora ranting | Feb 26 09:54 |
| *nirik tried to get a description of Dosimals issue last night with no paste that I can recall seeing. Oh well. All we can do is keep trying. | Feb 26 09:55 | |
| nirik | Southern_Gentlem: yeah, it's quiet alright. | Feb 26 09:55 |
| ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - Open Floor | Feb 26 09:55 | |
| nirik | anything else? or shall we stick a fork in this meeting? | Feb 26 09:55 |
| Southern_Gentlem | fork it | Feb 26 09:55 |
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| nirik | ok. Keep up the good work everyone... thanks for coming. | Feb 26 09:56 |
| ---nirik has changed the topic to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel for meeting schedule | Feb 26 09:57 | |
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| nirik | oh shoot. I just remembed another topic. Oh well, next week. | Feb 26 09:57 |
| thomasj | we're still all here | Feb 26 09:57 |
| roguedaemon | or mention it at least | Feb 26 09:57 |
| thomasj | Well, i guess so :) | Feb 26 09:58 |
| nirik | was going to mention #fedora-social... should there be any policing there at all, and if so what? | Feb 26 09:58 |
| nirik | I guess we should ping ivazquez about it, since he started the channel... | Feb 26 09:58 |
| roguedaemon | its pretty much troll proof | Feb 26 09:59 |
| roguedaemon | one or 2 incidents | Feb 26 09:59 |
| roguedaemon | nirik: what sort of policing | Feb 26 09:59 |
| roguedaemon | like stopping my drunken ramblings? :) | Feb 26 10:00 |
| nirik | well, I have been operating on the idea we should just leave it alone... anyone can do what they want there. There have been 2 incidents that I know of: | Feb 26 10:00 |
| roguedaemon | i'm not op there so i cant kick myself | Feb 26 10:00 |
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| nirik | 1 was someone posting nasty illegal links (I don't remember if it was kiddie porn or warez or what) | Feb 26 10:00 |
| roguedaemon | worse than X? | Feb 26 10:00 |
| zcat | #fedora-social is anything goes, except for extreme douchebaggery, unending political rants, and flooding... imo | Feb 26 10:00 |
| zcat | roguedaemon, yeah. has to be worse than X :) | Feb 26 10:01 |
| roguedaemon | all X ever did was post dead bodies and fat chicks | Feb 26 10:01 |
| nirik | another was the guy who was ranting about politics and religion to a vast extent, making the channel unusable for others. | Feb 26 10:01 |
| roguedaemon | oh daemonxp | Feb 26 10:01 |
| Sonar_Guy | zcat: and that would be how it is being run, only ban that has been set recently was on daemonXP | Feb 26 10:01 |
| nirik | yeah. | Feb 26 10:01 |
| zcat | ok | Feb 26 10:01 |
| nirik | I would be inclined to say one of: a) no rules, any op can just kick/ban anyone if they feel they need to. or b) no rules, only illegal stuff or stuff that causes the channel to not be usable are grounds for kick/ban. | Feb 26 10:02 |
| Sonar_Guy | nirik: what I typically do is leave it up to the people in the channel, if they want somebody removed for being disruptive they tell me. | Feb 26 10:02 |
| nirik | but I guess we could just not worry about it. | Feb 26 10:02 |
| nirik | Sonar_Guy: but thats kinda mob rule... | Feb 26 10:03 |
| Sonar_Guy | maybe but it has worked this long | Feb 26 10:03 |
| Sonar_Guy | only 4 people on the ban list in there | Feb 26 10:03 |
| roguedaemon | if you listen to fools, the mob rules | Feb 26 10:03 |
| che | if no one is offended there is no reason for action | Feb 26 10:03 |
| Sonar_Guy | exactly | Feb 26 10:03 |
| che | if people are offended one has to use common sense ;). | Feb 26 10:04 |
| nirik | ok. I am also not sure how much that channel falls under our sig... but I guess we can just keep going as we are. ;) | Feb 26 10:04 |
| nirik | anyhow, if people could mull over it, we can bring it up next time. ;) | Feb 26 10:05 |
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| Southern_Gentlem | i have had someone come get me for an incident in social when i went in the room the person claimed down | Feb 26 10:08 |
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