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Agenda
- Fedora 19 Alpha status
- Test Days
- Open floor
Fedora 19 Alpha status
- Bugzilla: #929403 and Bugzilla: #928279 are known to be 'outstanding' blockers
- dgilmore was out on the day of the meeting, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow
- karma needed for initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 and libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19
- go/no-go was scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC
Test Days
- OpenStack Test Day and Printing Test Day both went ahead as planned without known problems
- Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n) looks to be pretty much ready, we need to send out some announcements; kparal is preparing live images
Open floor
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Action items
N/A
IRC Log
adamw | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting | 15:01 |
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zodbot | Meeting started Mon Apr 8 15:01:29 2013 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:01 |
adamw | #meetingname fedora-qa | 15:01 |
zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' | 15:01 |
adamw | #topic roll call | 15:01 |
adamw | morning folks | 15:01 |
* nirik is lurking. | 15:01 | |
* satellit listening | 15:01 | |
* kparal cheers | 15:01 | |
* mkrizek is here | 15:01 | |
* brunowolff is here | 15:02 | |
* jskladan tips his hat | 15:02 | |
* j_dulaney sets down the banjo | 15:03 | |
* tflink is present | 15:03 | |
* jreznik is here | 15:03 | |
* pschindl is here | 15:03 | |
jreznik | morning adamw! | 15:03 |
adamw | wow, guess i can't sleep through this one huh | 15:03 |
adamw | #topic Fedora 19 Alpha status | 15:04 |
adamw | so, everybody touch wood, but we're actually looking pretty good | 15:05 |
adamw | #info current blocker list: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/19/alpha/buglist | 15:05 |
* j_dulaney doesn't have any wood around. | 15:05 | |
adamw | there's only three proposed blockers (which don't look likely to be accepted) and two possible issues in the accepted blockers | 15:05 |
jreznik | we were able to figure out initial-setup one in the morning | 15:06 |
adamw | right - this is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=929403 , it was 'fixed' but the fix was incorrect | 15:07 |
adamw | we're currently getting the fix corrected | 15:07 |
jreznik | it has to be verified now | 15:07 |
adamw | then there's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928279 , it looks like some progress has been made there | 15:07 |
jreznik | we have at least a clue and also - it was moved from F15 beta blocker to NTH that time and we have several workarounds... | 15:08 |
jreznik | I'm not sure how to fix properly... the second option should be doable | 15:08 |
adamw | yeah, we can re-discuss it at the blocker meeting and see if we want to drop blocker status | 15:09 |
adamw | #info 929403 and 928279 are known to be 'outstanding' blockers | 15:09 |
adamw | dgilmore is out today unfortunately so we may have to wait till tomorrow for a compose | 15:09 |
adamw | #info dgilmore is out today, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow | 15:10 |
* jreznik is not sure pbabinca would be able to create compose, could ask (in case we would need it) | 15:10 | |
adamw | nirik is usually the backup | 15:11 |
* nirik could try if need be | 15:11 | |
brunowolff | It's not good that only one person is trusted (in the knows what to do sense) to do composes. | 15:11 |
jreznik | adamw: yep I know, the idea is that palo could help us in out timezone too (to make the process faster when needed) | 15:11 |
* nirik has access and can do them | 15:11 | |
adamw | ah | 15:11 |
adamw | so, looking at test coverage, we're not looking too bad | 15:11 |
adamw | we could do with testing some USB installs to bare metal, and UEFI too | 15:12 |
* j_dulaney will work on the USB | 15:13 | |
* satellit need someone else to try bare metal USB install and confirm what I saw | 15:13 | |
adamw | yeah, i suspect that'll be just your system' | 15:13 |
adamw | well, I had issues with a dd'ed usb stick the only time i tried now i come to think of it, so maybe not. but litd worked okay. | 15:13 |
* satellit always worked before | 15:14 | |
adamw | okay | 15:14 |
* j_dulaney had no problem the last time he tested dd live to USB | 15:14 | |
adamw | we only need either dd or litd to work at alpha though, so even if dd is busted it's not a disaster. but it'd be good to check | 15:14 |
* j_dulaney is dding even now | 15:15 | |
adamw | it doesn't look like we need karma for any of the testing fixes except https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 (which should probably go along with a systemd build) and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 (we're waiting for a compose to test that one) | 15:15 |
adamw | i suppose we really should get a compose done with libreport in it to make sure that fix works... | 15:15 |
adamw | #info karma needed for https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 | 15:15 |
* satellit did netinstall of cinnamon 1 hr ago saw initial-setup on reboot | 15:16 | |
jreznik | satellit: but with improper fix | 15:16 |
jreznik | (actually I'd argue it wasn't as bad as 3/4 of services are still using the F17 way...) | 15:17 |
adamw | jreznik: well the biggest problem was that it didn't conditionalize the service enablement to happen only on first install | 15:17 |
jreznik | also I should ask FPC to make the new "enabled by default" way more visible in the guidelines | 15:17 |
adamw | but anyhoo. | 15:17 |
jreznik | adamw: it's just a bad time for initial setup handover to vratislav, especially as it's a completely new software... :( | 15:18 |
adamw | jreznik: can you ask vpodzime to edit the new systemd build into the initial-setup update? | 15:19 |
adamw | so, add systemd-200-4.fc19 to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 | 15:20 |
jreznik | adamw: sure, I was thinking about it but guys were faster than me | 15:20 |
adamw | =) | 15:20 |
adamw | okay | 15:20 |
adamw | does anyone have anything else on 19 Alpha? any significant issues we're not considering? | 15:20 |
jreznik | hmm, he already left | 15:21 |
jreznik | adamw: do you have rights to do it in bodhi? actually I think I could do it too... | 15:22 |
adamw | i don't have superpowers in bodhi, but nirik could if need be | 15:22 |
* nirik nods. just let me know what you need. | 15:22 | |
nirik | I'm doing a f19-updates-testing push right now, can edit after that | 15:23 |
jreznik | for Alpha - Go/No-Go is currently scheduled on Apr 11 17:00 UTC (about to send reminder), Readiness meeting on the same day, two hours later - 19:00 UTC | 15:23 |
jreznik | nirik: thanks | 15:23 |
adamw | #info go/no-go is scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC | 15:24 |
adamw | #topic Test Days | 15:24 |
adamw | looks like we're short a martix | 15:24 |
adamw | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-04_Printing both went ahead last week, some decent involvement in the printing test day | 15:25 |
adamw | and good lord, i need to design some sort of autocannon system for people who write essays in the margin notes | 15:25 |
kparal | I'm building LiveCDs for this week's test day | 15:25 |
* j_dulaney tried with openstack; it kept borking, so gave up | 15:26 | |
adamw | did you report how it borked? | 15:27 |
* j_dulaney did | 15:29 | |
adamw | yay! | 15:29 |
adamw | then all went according to plan. | 15:29 |
adamw | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n) is coming up on Thursday, kparal is preparing live images | 15:30 |
adamw | #chair jreznik kparal | 15:30 |
zodbot | Current chairs: adamw jreznik kparal | 15:30 |
adamw | the test day page is in order, l10n/i18n folks have their own setup | 15:30 |
adamw | anything else on test days? | 15:32 |
adamw | i guess not! | 15:34 |
adamw | #topic open floor | 15:34 |
adamw | that's all we have for the agenda | 15:34 |
adamw | anything else t odiscuss? | 15:34 |
j_dulaney | .bacon | 15:35 |
zodbot | I love bacon, you love bacon, WE ALL LOVE BACON!! (except for NiveusLuna, who was tragically attacked by bacon as a child.) | 15:35 |
kparal | spam 'n' eggs? | 15:36 |
tflink | blocker review meeting @ 16:00 UTC | 15:36 |
adamw | #info there is general approval of bacon | 15:36 |
tflink | -1 | 15:36 |
adamw | yeah, we're following up with a blocker review meeting in #fedora-blocker-review | 15:36 |
adamw | .fire tflink | 15:36 |
zodbot | adamw fires tflink | 15:36 |
adamw | #info tflink was fired for disapproving of bacon | 15:36 |
* tflink will never understand the obsession with bacon | 15:36 | |
j_dulaney | Bacon == life | 15:37 |
adamw | THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM, FLINK | 15:37 |
tflink | the last time I ate bacon, I was sick for the rest of the day | 15:37 |
tflink | oh well, to each their own | 15:38 |
misc | tflink: your lack of faith in bacon is disturbing | 15:38 |
* jreznik is getting hungry! | 15:38 | |
tflink | misc: more disturbing than bacon flavored for the potty-mouthed bacon lover (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/da14/)? | 15:39 |
tflink | bacon flavored soap | 15:39 |
adamw | alrighty, let's give everyone 20 minutes to go and eat some bacon | 15:39 |
adamw | then we re-convene in #fedora-blocker-review to blow through the blocker list | 15:40 |
j_dulaney | .moar bacon adamw | 15:40 |
zodbot | here adamw, have some more bacon | 15:40 |
adamw | thanks for coming, folks | 15:40 |
adamw | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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