2024-06-19 Fedora 41 A11Y

Accesibility aka A11Y


Date	2024-06-19 to 2024-06-26
Time	all day

Website	QA/Test Days
Matrix	#test-day:fedoraproject.org^{(other clients\|?)}
Mailing list	test

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What to test?[edit]

This Test Day will focus on Accesibllity Tools in Gnome AKA A11Y

Who's available[edit]

The following cast of characters will be available testing, workarounds, bug fixes, and general discussion:

Development - Developer1 (matrix_nick1), Developer2 (matrix_nick2) FIXME
Quality Assurance - Sumantro Mukherjee (sumantrom), Geoffrey Marr (coremodule), Kamil Paral (kparal), Adam Williamson (adamw)

You can chat with us on Matrix. See the infobox on top of the page to learn where to join.

Prerequisite for Test Day[edit]

A virtual machine or a bare metal machine
An installation of Fedora 41 (any Edition or Spin). Make sure to fully update your system. If installing a fresh system, it's recommended to use the latest nightly image.

How to test?[edit]

Visit the results page and click on the column title links to see the tests that need to be run: most column titles are links to a specific test case. Follow the instructions there, then enter your results by clicking the Enter result button for the test.

Please also try to experiment and explore and perform tasks not mentioned in any of the pre-defined test cases.

Reporting bugs[edit]

Perhaps you've found an already-reported bug. Please look at:

All new bugs should be reported into the FIXME upstream bug tracker. A less-preferred alternative is to file them into Red Hat Bugzilla, in most cases against the FIXME component.

We really need bug reports!
Please note that just mentioning your problem into the comments section on the results page is not very helpful. Very often those problems only happen in specific circumstances, or with specific steps taken. We need the logs and screenshots, and we need to be able to ask you followup questions. Please file bug reports, it's much more useful than a short comment. Thank you!

When filing the bug, it's very helpful to include:

exact steps you've performed (and whether you can reproduce it again)
screenshots or videos, if applicable
system journal (log), which you can retrieve by journalctl -b > journal.txt
all output in a terminal, if started from a terminal
your system description

If you are unsure about exactly how to file the report or what other information to include, just ask us.

Please make sure to link to the bug when submitting your test result, thanks!

Test Results[edit]

Basic[edit]

User	Profile	at-spi2-atk	at-spi2-core	brltty	orca	accerciser	References
bmilar	Dell Precision 3551, Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-Rawhide-20240624.n.0.iso, Gnome	warn ^[1]	warn ^[2]	pass ^[3]	fail ^[4]	fail ^[5]	↑ Orca arbitrarily switches between two voice settings which is not desirable (known issue). Gedit menu items are announced as push buttons (may be caused by gedit design?). Closing gedit window not announced by Orca. ↑ gnome-calculator does not read characters being entered to the text field, if the application is launched via "Show Apps" in Overview. ↑ Tested using Braille displays "Tieman Voyager" and "BAUM SuperVario2" (both with 40 characters). ↑ When Orca is started via Alt+Super+S, it say "Screen reader on", seems to run, but does not speak. Orca does not open Preferences window, if Insert+Space is pressed in an empty workspace (i.e. screen without any opened window). ↑ Installation OK, but my attempt to run the installed application ended with the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/accerciser", line 83, in <module> accerciser.main() ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^ ... File "/usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/accerciser/plugin/view.py", line 23, in <module> import imp ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'imp'
derekenz	Thinkpad 480s. F41 Rawhide running in a VM.	pass ^[1]	pass ^[2]	warn ^[3]	pass ^[4]	fail ^[5]	↑ Did not run optional test. ↑ At first using FireFox web browser, the software did not read anything back. Logged out of the system and back in which fixed the issue. Had no issues running Chrome. For one of the options, using Google chat, the software worked just fine. ↑ Unfortunately do not have a braille display to test with. ↑ FireFox doesn't always work with screen reader. Chrome is fine. Thunderbird email client works well. ↑ Unfortunately could not get Accerciser to run. Was able to install the program but after trying a few things it would not open. The mouse cursor would just spin and then stop.
ersen	F41 Workstation on virt-manager	pass	pass		pass
geraldosimiao	F40 KDE at Acer Aspire V3-571 / i7-3632QM				pass
sbonazzo	Rawhide x86_64 VM, orca-46.1-4.fc41.noarch at-spi2-atk-2.52.0-1.fc41.x86_64 gedit-46.2-2.fc41.x86_64 ; locale set to Italian.	pass ^[1]	pass ^[2]				↑ Didn't cover the optional part of the test. ↑ Didn't cover the optional part of the test.

[1] Orca arbitrarily switches between two voice settings which is not desirable (known issue). Gedit menu items are announced as push buttons (may be caused by gedit design?). Closing gedit window not announced by Orca.

[2] -calculator does not read characters being entered to the text field, if the application is launched via "Show Apps" in Overview.

[3] Tested using Braille displays "Tieman Voyager" and "BAUM SuperVario2" (both with 40 characters).

[4] When Orca is started via Alt+Super+S, it say "Screen reader on", seems to run, but does not speak. Orca does not open Preferences window, if Insert+Space is pressed in an empty workspace (i.e. screen without any opened window).

[5] Installation OK, but my attempt to run the installed application ended with the following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "/usr/bin/accerciser", line 83, in <module> accerciser.main() ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^

...

File "/usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/accerciser/plugin/view.py", line 23, in <module> import imp

ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'imp'

[6] Did not run optional test.

[7] At first using FireFox web browser, the software did not read anything back. Logged out of the system and back in which fixed the issue. Had no issues running Chrome. For one of the options, using Google chat, the software worked just fine.

[8] Unfortunately do not have a braille display to test with.

[9] FireFox doesn't always work with screen reader. Chrome is fine. Thunderbird email client works well.

[10] Unfortunately could not get Accerciser to run. Was able to install the program but after trying a few things it would not open. The mouse cursor would just spin and then stop.

[11] Didn't cover the optional part of the test.

[12] Didn't cover the optional part of the test.

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