2024-09-10 I18N Test Day

Fedora Test Days

I18N

Date	2024-09-10 to 2024-09-16
Time	7 days

Website	QA/Fedora_41_test_days
Mailing list	test

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Please follow the nomenclature of adding profile information for your testing while submitting test result

1) which variant? WS (Workstation) or SB (Silverblue) or Kinoite ?

2) bare metal or VM?

3) which language used?

4) which arch used?

5) if you upgraded from the previous release, please specify "upgrade"

e.g. a complete user profile should be "Silverblue, KVM, ja_JP, x86_64, Fresh"

What to test?[edit]

Today's installment of Fedora Test Day will focus on Internationalization a.k.a. i18n around Desktops including their applications. this aims to ensure if i18n support works enough on them.

Who's available[edit]

The following cast of characters will be available testing, workarounds, bug fixes, and general discussion ...

Development - Akira TAGOH (tagoh), Parag Nemade (paragan)
Quality Assurance - Sumantro Mukherjee (sumantrom)

Prerequisite for Test Day[edit]

One or more keyboards with different layouts
Workstation Fedora 41 nightly image or daily compose location.

OR

Silverblue Fedora 41 nightly image or daily compose location.

OR

Kinoite Fedora 41 nightly image or daily compose location.

How to test?[edit]

Update your machine[edit]

If you test with an installed system, make sure you have all the current updates installed, using the update manager.

Live image[edit]

Instead of testing on an installed system, you may download a Fedora 41 nightly Workstation live image or Fedora 41 Silverblue image for your architecture. Tips on using a live image are available at FedoraLiveCD. The latest live image links can be found here: please make sure to get a Fedora 41 nightly, not Rawhide.

Run the tests[edit]

Visit the result page and click on the column title links to see the tests that need to be run: most column titles are links to a specific test case. Follow the instructions there, then enter your results by clicking the Enter result button for the test.

Reporting bugs[edit]

Include some instructions on how to report bugs, and any special instructions.

If you have problems with any of the tests, report a bug to Bugzilla for the appropriate component. If you are unsure about exactly how to file the report or what other information to include, just ask on IRC and we will help you.

Test Results[edit]

Please follow the nomenclature of adding profile information for your testing while submitting test result

1) which variant? WS (Workstation) or SB (Silverblue) or Kinoite ?

2) bare metal or VM?

3) which language used?

4) which arch used?

5) if you upgraded from the previous release, please specify "upgrade"

e.g. a complete user profile should be "Silverblue, KVM, ja_JP, x86_64, Fresh"

Results will be transferred from result page

Fedora 41 changes[edit]

User	Profile	IBus Chewing default for Traditional Chinese (Taiwan)	References
gokulakannan	Workstation, KVM, zh_TW, x86_64, Fresh	pass ^[1]	↑ Chewing input method correctly inputs the test sentences. Fuzzy Chewing conversion also working as expected.
kanru	SB 41.20240909.n.0, VM, zh_TW, x86_64, Fresh	pass
mfabian	WS, KVM, ja_JP, x86_64, Fresh	pass ^[1]	↑ I did not (yet) test whether it is installed and enabled by default after an installation in zh_TW locale. But the test case works. Except for one minor nitpick: Configure "Keyboard Type" to "Hanyu Pinyin" and "Conversion Engine" to "Fuzzy Chewing" The test case says: “Type "ji hui shao zong ji shi" or "ji hui4 shao zong4 ji2 shi4" should display "機會稍縱即逝"” and when typing without the tones, this works, but when typing with the tones, the digits indicating the tones already trigger the conversion so one should not type a space after a tone, one should type "ji hui4shao zong4ji2shi4", then it works.
petersen	WS 41-20240908.n.0 virt-manager zh_TW	pass
pnemade	SB, KVM, mr_IN, x86_64	pass
pyadav	WS, KVM, ko_KR, x86_64, Fresh	pass
sshil	WS 41-20240908 en_IN x86_64 Fresh GNOME	pass

Input(overall) tests[edit]

User	Profile	setup	app	emoji	References
ersen	Fedora-41-20240909 on KVM	pass	pass
geraldosimiao	Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-41-20240909.n.0 on KVM	pass	pass
kanru	SB 41.20240909.n.0, KVM, zh_TW, x86_64, Fresh	pass	pass	pass
matiwari	WS, KVM, en_IN, x86_64	pass	pass ^[1]		↑ Tested in terminal, firefox, text-editor
mattherix	WS 41-20240910, KVM, fr_FR, x86_64, Fresh	pass	pass	pass
mfabian	WS, KVM, ja_JP, x86_64, Fresh		pass ^[1]	fail ^[2]	↑ RHBZ #2310864 Tested on XFCE with ibus-typing-booster in: Firefox, xfce4-terminal, libreoffice, evolution, kwrite. Not tested in gnome-software because gnome-software does not seem to start on XFCE, see bug 2310864 ↑ RHBZ #2310892 Mostly works, almost everything described in the test case works, except for opening the emoji selector from the panel menu in XFCE, see bug 2310892
petersen	WS 41-20240908.n.0 virt-manager zh_TW GNOME	pass	pass	pass
pnemade	SB, KVM, mr_IN, x86_64	pass	pass ^[1]		↑ input in Marathi worked in Terminal, Text Editor, Firefox, LibreOffice apps.
pyadav	WS, KVM, ko_KR, x86_64, Fresh	pass	pass	pass
romangherta	Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-41-20240910.n.0 on KVM	pass ^[1]	pass		↑ - Add German and Russian Input Sources. Then in Settings/Keyboard/InputSources click on the three dots next to German and select the "view keyboard layout". On tab 4 you will notice left shift is called "dead belowm..." - Go to Settings/Keyboard/InputSources and next to Russian click on "view keyboard layout" - you will notice the window title is Keyboard Layout - null. - Close all windows then go to top right corner and click on "en". In the new popup click on "Show Keyboard Layout". While Keyboard Layout is open change the input source on the right top corner and notice the layout does not reflect the change consistently and the (null) windows title appears for german as well this time. (same for the new ibus)
sshil	WS 41-20240908 en_IN x86_64 Fresh GNOME	pass	pass
tagoh	KDE, KVM, ja_JP, x86_64, Fresh	pass	fail ^[1] fail ^[2] fail ^[3]	warn ^[4]	↑ RHBZ #2267609 a known issue since f40 ↑ RHBZ #2237669 a known issue since f39. ↑ RHBZ #2267608 a known issue since f40 but still persists in f41 too. ↑ Super+period brings up plasma-emojier instead of ibus-ui-emojier. This test case doesn't work as expected on KDE
twinkle	WS, KVM, hi_IN, x86_64, Fresh	pass

Input(language specific) tests[edit]

User	Profile	ibus-anthy (Japanese)	ibus-hangul (Korean)	ibus-libpinyin (Simplified Chinese)	ibus-libzhuyin (Traditional Chinese)	ibus-table (cangjie)	ibus-m17n (general)	ibus-m17n (Inscript2)	ibus-typing-booster	ibus-unikey (Vietnamese)	References
kanru	SB 41.20240909.n.0, KVM, zh_TW, x86_64, Fresh	pass
mfabian	WS, KVM, ja_JP, x86_64, Fresh	pass ^[1]	pass ^[2]	pass ^[3]	pass ^[4]	pass ^[5]	pass	pass ^[6]	pass ^[7]	pass	↑ Works as described. ↑ Works as described. ↑ Works as described (I did not test changing dictionaries though) ↑ Works as described. ↑ Works, but in Gnome Wayland the illegal input sequence in CangJie5 is hard to test because the preedit has no colour. It just stops and one cannot continue typing and might not realize that something is wrong and one has to type Escape to cancel or Backspace to make the sequence legal again. Gnome Xorg seems to be not available anymore, in XFCE one can see the error colour. One may be able to hear an error beep though. ↑ Tested hi-inscript2 ↑ Couldn't find any problems.
pnemade	SB, KVM, mr_IN, x86_64						pass	pass ^[1]			↑ Used mr-inscript2.mim and its working fine. AltGr mappings also working fine.
pyadav	WS, KVM, ko_KR, x86_64, Fresh	pass	pass	pass			pass	pass		pass
tagoh	KDE, KVM, ja_JP, x86_64, Fresh	pass

Rendering/Printing tests[edit]

User	Profile	Default font	Applications	Flatpaks	Browsers	Harfbuzz Rendering UTRRS	References
geraldosimiao	Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-41-20240909.n.0 on KVM	pass
luckypants		fail ^[1]					↑ fontquery-diff 41 Comparison between 41 and local Error: configure storage: 'overlay' is not supported over overlayfs, a mount_program is required: backing file system is unsupported for this graph driver
luckypants	Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-41-20240909 on KVM	fail ^[1]	warn ^[2]				↑ fontquery-diff 41 * Comparison between 41 and local Error: configure storage: 'overlay' is not supported over overlayfs, a mount_program is required: backing file system is unsupported for this graph driver ↑ Dialog text is not translated. Steps to reproduce: Change OS Language Change Firefox Language Open the link and hover over any emoji: http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/emoji-sequences.html Note that the dialog is not translated to the changed language. The issue persists after logging out.
pnemade	SB, KVM, mr_IN, x86_64	pass ^[1]	warn ^[2]	pass ^[3]	pass ^[4]	warn ^[5]	↑ Though "fontquery-diff 41 -l mr" output worked fine but observed difference for default monospace font for Marathi. Also its easy to use fontquery on Silverblue by layering fontquery package. ↑ Firefox ran in Marathi but TextEditor flatpak, gnome-software does not run in Marathi language. ↑ flatpak commands worked fine. ↑ rendering of Marathi text is correct in Firefox, Chromium ↑ UTRRS website not opening
romangherta	Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-41-20240910.n.0 on KVM	pass	pass ^[1]	warn ^[2]	pass		↑ Libreoffice crashed then on a second start showed the correct characters. ↑ Maybe I don't know how to use flatpak... flatpak list was empty, had to install again LibreOffice for example, it selected the F40 repo, afterwards flatpak run "failed to open display" but I still get the LibreOffice start window
sshil	WS 41-20240908 en_IN x86_64 Fresh GNOME	fail ^[1] pass ^[2]					↑ $ fontquery-diff 41 Comparison between 41 and local Error: configure storage: 'overlay' is not supported over overlayfs, a mount_program is required: backing file system is unsupported for this graph driver ↑ while installing fontquery, one warning occurs: Running trigger-install scriptlet: glibc-common-0:2.40-3.fc41.x86_64warning: posix.fork(): .fork(), .exec(), .wait() and .redirect2null() are deprecated, use rpm.execute() instead warning: posix.wait(): .fork(), .exec(), .wait() and .redirect2null() are deprecated, use rpm.execute() instead
tagoh	KDE, KVM, ja_JP, x86_64, Fresh	pass ^[1] warn ^[2]	fail ^[3] pass ^[4]		pass ^[5]		↑ tested on installed image. The default graph driver has been changed to overlay on podman and it won't work on Live. need to use fuse-overlayfs as mount_program or install Live to get this work. ↑ There are some issues in Fedora package which is quite old. need to update 1.21 or do "pip install fontquery >= 1.21" ↑ RHBZ #1954359 emoji renderred with B/W font. a known issue. ↑ Almost works except emoji. ↑ tried firefox on Plasma

Other tests[edit]

User	Profile	langpacks packages	References
bittin	Dell OptiPlex Micro 3050 - cockpit VM - Branched	warn ^[1]	↑ dnf5 and the new ptyxis terminal is missing translations https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/1688 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2311298 https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/417#comment-931301 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2311297
luckypants	Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-41-20240909 on KVM	pass
mattherix	WS 41-20240910, KVM, fr_FR, x86_64, Fresh	pass
pnemade	SB, KVM, mr_IN, x86_64	warn ^[1]	↑ If you are changing the system language on WS then after you logout from current session and login the new language langpacks got installed due to gnome-software-fedora-langpacks but same is not valid for Silverblue as gnome-software-fedora-langpacks does not exists on default installation. In that case just layer this plugin package and reboot. After reboot the new system language langpacks will get installed.
pnemade	F41 Silverblue x86_64 KVM	pass ^[1]	↑ langpacks commands works in toolbox.
pyadav	WS, KVM, ko_KR, x86_64, Fresh	pass ^[1]	↑ dnf list installed "langpacks" list both installed and available packages, same behavior with dnf list available "langpacks" . Previously they listed installed(dnf list installed "langpacks") and available(dnf list available "langpacks") packages only not both.
romangherta	Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-41-20240910.n.0 on KVM	fail ^[1]	↑ dnf list --installed "langpacks*" incomplete list of packages, only 2 out of 5 installed
sshil	WS 41-20240908 en_IN x86_64 Fresh GNOME	pass
tagoh	KDE, KVM, ja_JP, x86_64, Fresh	pass ^[1]	↑ All the test cases works as expected on Plasma

Fedora 41 Test Day Report[edit]

	No. of unique Languages	No. of participants	No. of New bugs filed	Total Bug list	Comments
I18n	8	16	4	dnf5 [RHBZ #2311298], gtk4 [RHBZ #2310864], ibus [RHBZ #2310892], ptyxis [RHBZ #2311297]	Most people test Workstation iso but two tested KDE and two other tested Silverblue. The languages that participant tested are en_IN, en_US, fr_FR, hi_IN, ja_JP, ko_KR, mr_IN, zh_TW

[1] Chewing input method correctly inputs the test sentences. Fuzzy Chewing conversion also working as expected.

[2] I did not (yet) test whether it is installed and enabled by default after an installation in zh_TW locale. But the test case works. Except for one minor nitpick: Configure "Keyboard Type" to "Hanyu Pinyin" and "Conversion Engine" to "Fuzzy Chewing" The test case says: “Type "ji hui shao zong ji shi" or "ji hui4 shao zong4 ji2 shi4" should display "機會稍縱即逝"” and when typing without the tones, this works, but when typing with the tones, the digits indicating the tones already trigger the conversion so one should not type a space after a tone, one should type "ji hui4shao zong4ji2shi4", then it works.

[3] Tested in terminal, firefox, text-editor

[4] RHBZ #2310864 Tested on XFCE with ibus-typing-booster in: Firefox, xfce4-terminal, libreoffice, evolution, kwrite. Not tested in gnome-software because gnome-software does not seem to start on XFCE, see bug 2310864

[5] RHBZ #2310892 Mostly works, almost everything described in the test case works, except for opening the emoji selector from the panel menu in XFCE, see bug 2310892

[6] ut in Marathi worked in Terminal, Text Editor, Firefox, LibreOffice apps.

[7] - Add German and Russian Input Sources. Then in Settings/Keyboard/InputSources click on the three dots next to German and select the "view keyboard layout". On tab 4 you will notice left shift is called "dead belowm..." - Go to Settings/Keyboard/InputSources and next to Russian click on "view keyboard layout" - you will notice the window title is Keyboard Layout - null. - Close all windows then go to top right corner and click on "en". In the new popup click on "Show Keyboard Layout". While Keyboard Layout is open change the input source on the right top corner and notice the layout does not reflect the change consistently and the (null) windows title appears for german as well this time. (same for the new ibus)

[8] RHBZ #2267609 a known issue since f40

[9] RHBZ #2237669 a known issue since f39.

[10] RHBZ #2267608 a known issue since f40 but still persists in f41 too.

[11] Super+period brings up plasma-emojier instead of ibus-ui-emojier. This test case doesn't work as expected on KDE

[12] Works as described.

[13] Works as described.

[14] Works as described (I did not test changing dictionaries though)

[15] Works as described.

[16] Works, but in Gnome Wayland the illegal input sequence in CangJie5 is hard to test because the preedit has no colour. It just stops and one cannot continue typing and might not realize that something is wrong and one has to type Escape to cancel or Backspace to make the sequence legal again. Gnome Xorg seems to be not available anymore, in XFCE one can see the error colour. One may be able to hear an error beep though.

[17] Tested hi-inscript2

[18] Couldn't find any problems.

[19] Used mr-inscript2.mim and its working fine. AltGr mappings also working fine.

[20] tquery-diff 41
Comparison between 41 and local
Error: configure storage: 'overlay' is not supported over overlayfs, a mount_program is required: backing file system is unsupported for this graph driver

[21] Comparison between 41 and local

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